{"id":613,"date":"2013-01-30T11:03:27","date_gmt":"2013-01-30T17:03:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/?p=613"},"modified":"2013-01-30T11:07:32","modified_gmt":"2013-01-30T17:07:32","slug":"dinner-with-a-christian-fundamentalist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/thoughts\/dinner-with-a-christian-fundamentalist\/","title":{"rendered":"Dinner with a Christian Fundamentalist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, my partner J and I had the pleasure of spending some time with one of J&#8217;s fellow martial artists, a fellow I&#8217;ll call C, who is a deeply passionate Christian. While he&#8217;s vaguely aware that J and I aren&#8217;t Christian, C certainly doesn&#8217;t know how liberal we are or that we&#8217;re queer.<\/p>\n<p>Suffice it to say, our informal post-training dinner at Steak &#8216;n Shake was filled with considerable tact and careful courtesy.<\/p>\n<p>At one point, J asked how the past few months had treated C, and as he relayed his somewhat rocky road to us, I did my best to listen openly. C spoke of God and Satan frankly, personally, having a strong relationship with the one and an alert enmity with the other. His level of traditionalism regarding Christian morals and ideals is, to be quite honest, not something I&#8217;m accustomed to digesting in person; normally, folks tote signs with those phrases, and I don&#8217;t hear them face-to-face.<\/p>\n<p>What struck me, though, more than the novelty of listening to such powerful religious statements from a fundamentalist angle, were the similarities between us. I don&#8217;t run into a lot of Christians who casually but genuinely refer to what God told them; that&#8217;s something a lot more common among my polytheist and Kemetic comrades. How strange is it that we of many gods are all over one-on-one conversations with our deities, no middleman required, but when a Christian takes the same matter-of-fact tone about the experience, some of us balk? (I understand that many pagans and polytheists are gunshy about more fervent Christians due to personal history; in no way do I mean to dismiss or ignore that. Consider this as thinking outloud and exploring some common subconscious reactions that many non-Christians may feel.)<\/p>\n<p>Another commonality I noticed was how strongly C feels about God, and how I can grok the depth of his emotions and loyalty, because I feel similarly towards Netjer&mdash; towards my name for God and my version of the divine. Many of the theists I know express a deep and boundless love, trust, and faith, and if you strip the names and trappings away, it sure feels like the same kind of love, trust, and faith a vehement Christian can have for God.<\/p>\n<p>I may not agree with the level of control that C and some fundamentalists give over to God &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty fond of free will and some firm logic myself &#8211; but the idea of releasing something we humans cannot control to a higher power is far from alien, even for polytheists. If a situation is out of my hands, or another person&#8217;s actions are beyond my influence or assistance, I do pray &#8211; and I do my best to trust that Netjer&#8217;s got it covered, that the Universe will do its thing, and that my worrying won&#8217;t help anything at all. This is a concept that many polytheists and monotheists share, albeit to varying degrees of totality.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, both polytheists and Christians often pray&#8211; for ourselves, for the world, and for others. C has prayed, has meditated, and has fasted to come closer to his god; that&#8217;s not a very far cry from many polytheist or shamanic practices, though the definition and understanding of what and who God is can vary. I as a Kemetic may have vastly different conceptions of divinity than a Christian fundamentalist, but with open eyes and a steady heart, I can see where we can find common ground: in our interactions with divinity, in our love for Who we worship, and in our willingness to trust.<\/p>\n<p>And in a society where many paths can be healthy and fulfilling, I find it well worth the effort to bridge the gaps and touch hands with my fellow humans, regardless of their choice of faith.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, my partner J and I had the pleasure of spending some time with one of J&#8217;s fellow martial artists, a fellow I&#8217;ll call C, who is a deeply passionate Christian. While he&#8217;s vaguely aware that J and I aren&#8217;t Christian, C certainly doesn&#8217;t know how liberal we are or that we&#8217;re queer. Suffice [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[73],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/613"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=613"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/613\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":628,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/613\/revisions\/628"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=613"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=613"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/unorthodoxcreativity.com\/emky\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=613"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}